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Post by Ivory Doom on Aug 13, 2013 7:35:28 GMT 10
I have read that theory before actually, about Bredon being Kvothe's grandfather or some such. Wish I could remember the details a little better. I just never much cared for it, just seemed weird and really reaching to me, but thats purely based on opinion. I agree alexiel, not impossible, certainly not. But if that is the answer it will definitely be a disapointment, at least for me. Unless Pat comes up with some ridiculous awesome explanation that doesn't fit the mold I'm picturing. I think Cinder certainly has his own story, I doubt it will surmount to he wasn't much of a dick, as opposed to, he is an asshole for some reason that is probably completely relatable and could be understood from his perspective. Much like we offer Kvothe more understanding in regards to some of his less honorable actions because we understand and are a participant in his point of view. I read this thing once in the back of a book by Matt Heppe about how when "bad guys" look in the mirror they don't see a bad guy, they just see themselves - and that is spot on how I imagine the Chandrian. I also do not trust Maer Alveron strangebrewd. I'm holding on to my crackpot that Maer Alveron is also Denna's patron and Bredon is as you mentioned, an educator for Kvothe, but also a distraction.
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Post by karen on Aug 21, 2013 3:03:59 GMT 10
I added that Taborlin one. Though in my opinion the chance of that is slim. I have seen it a lot though, so it merits mentioning. In short, Elodin would have to be a time traveller to be Taborlin. Agreed...but I'll just point out the Fae/Four Corners time disparity here, for argument's sake. Elodin seems to at least have visited Fae, as he recognizes Kvothe's shaed. Not sure I agree with the theory in any case, but it's a popular one!
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Post by Ivory Doom on Aug 22, 2013 9:40:19 GMT 10
Even with the time differences he couldn't be Taborlin based on the information that is presented. Elodin began attending the University when he was 13 or 14 years old, the youngest candidate ever accepted. We know at the very least that Elxa Dal taught him Sympathy because of the story of Elodin's first time calling the name of Fire. Since Elxa Dal is still alive, we can deduce that if Elodin went to Fae during his time at the University or his tenure there, he wasn't gone for very long in the mortal timeline. If he was Taborlin, he'd have had to gone during the younger years of his mortal timeline, meaning Taborlin would have to be 12 years old or younger, then gone into fae for a substantial amount of time, enough to become historical, all while being a master namer. Considering this is far from the description we recieve of Taborlin and that Elxa Dal personally witnessed the first time Elodin used at least one name, logically he couldn't be Taborlin unless the information we've been given is false.
Thats why I say the probability is low, the only reason it has ANY probability at all is because we can't say 100% that everyone is telling the truth or our historical data is completely correct.
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Post by displacement on Aug 23, 2013 2:00:33 GMT 10
I do love some unreliable narrators but that would be a pretty big conspiracy coverup if Elodin was really Taborlin. I think I like the idea that there are and have been lots of super-powerful wizards and Taborlin just happens to be the most famous. With the way they talk about naming, it seems like Elodin would barely be notable in the past.
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Post by Ivory Doom on Aug 23, 2013 7:25:47 GMT 10
This is also barring Time travel.
I believe that Pat said there wasn't a name to time, but I never researched it, that was just something I was told. Though they did cite the TOR interview he did after the reread. I was just lazy - sometimes I'm like that. LOL. Though I did think, prior to that piece of information the possibility was still open considering Elodin is a Master Namer. If he had the name of time it could seriously explain a lot about him, including his moderately insane demeanor. But alas, I doubt that will be the case. Especially since, if time had a name, Haliax would be able to use it most likely, then things would just start to fall apart from there. In my mind, I think if Haliax had access to name like that, he'd probably spend an infinite amount of time redoing whatever happened between him and Lyra until he finally saved her or collapsed the fabric of the universe.
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Post by displacement on Aug 24, 2013 1:31:40 GMT 10
he'd probably spend an infinite amount of time redoing whatever happened between him and Lyra until he finally saved her or collapsed the fabric of the universe. Wow... that's an amazing thought, I love that. I could see a really dark movie made out of that, kind of a Groundhogs Day meets Eternal Sunshine where the main character keeps going back to relive the same time and each time it gets more and more fragmented and less and less satisfying until eventually everything is lost. It'd be a great study of addiction.
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Post by Ivory Doom on Aug 29, 2013 7:45:00 GMT 10
I agree, it would be pretty amazing in a tragic sense.
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Post by tempi on Oct 28, 2013 16:30:38 GMT 10
THIS THEORY WINS.
1.) Meluan Lackless is Kvothe's Aunt and Laurian's sister. Laurian is really Natalia Lackless.
Why?
1. We know Kvothe's mother scolded him for singing the song that involves Lackless.
2. Kvothe seems to remember seeing her from somewhere. I bet its because Meluan looks like his mother or they could have been twins with Natalia being the younger of the twin.
3. Cinder was killed by Kvothe.
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Post by viniciusnc on Nov 21, 2013 6:50:55 GMT 10
Lorren is one of the Amyr? I didn't get this :0
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